Transcript of comments made today at the National Press Club by Naseem Mahdi, national vice president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in the U.S.:
"We live in an expanding universe but the world is shrinking daily and it is so highly important for us all to discover and follow the paths that lead to peace.
"I am going to make a few brief comments prompted by the recent attempted bombing in New York, but necessitated by much broader considerations.
"The Holy Founder of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian, India, had declared over 120 years ago that there is no place or justification found in Islam for violence whatsoever.
"He said that Islam requires all Muslims to live in peace and harmony wherever they may be.
"It is thus the duty and responsibility of all Muslims living in the U.S. to be loyal to the flag and to be law-abiding citizens.
"It is clear from the events happening all around that a small, fanatic, extremist minority of Muslims has hijacked the faith and continues to mislead and misguide the Muslims and ruin their total life.
"In my considered opinion, such fanatics present a distorted view of Islam based on false and misguided interpretations.
"For example such people say that it is not necessary for a Muslim to follow any non-Islamic government...This is utterly false..
"If the vast majority of reasonable, peace-loving and law-abiding population of Muslims living in the US do not speak out and speak out loudly this will continue and ultimately ruin the lives, economic and social, of all Muslims and the community at large.
"I am calling today on ALL MUSLIMS IN THE U.S. to join me in condemning all actions of violence and terror caused or carried out by anyone whoever he or she may be.
"I call on all of them to boldly claim and express with their tongue and action that they are loyal and law-abiding and obedient citizens of the United States of America.
"This is fully in accord with the teachings of Muhammad, peace be on him, the Holy Founder of Islam, who said that hubbul watanay minal eeman..
"Love of one's homeland, one's place of residence, is a part of the Muslim's faith..
"It is high time that Muslims living in the U.S. wake up to their responsibilities and declare openly and repeatedly and loudly that they stand for peace and loyalty and are proud of it and that this is in fact what Islam itself requires of them.
"Let me end by being totally forthright.
"I say to those among Muslims living in the U.S. who are not loyal or who do not want to be loyal that they are benefiting and enjoying all that this open, free, country has to offer and yet they say that their loyalties are to another country or government.
"I want to say to such people that they are not only living a false and hypocritical life but that they are thus also ungrateful and my advice to them is to be bold and leave and go and live in the lands where their loyalties belong."
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"Islam condemns terrorism unreservedly and totally."
"...there is no place or justification found in Islam for violence whatsoever."
"He said that Islam requires all Muslims to live in peace and harmony wherever they may be."
This is pure deceitful pro-Moslem propaganda. Here is what Islam really says about terrorism and peace and tolerance:
FROM THE KORAN:
--“ the (only) religion (acceptable) before God is Islam." (3:19)
-- " If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him." (3: 85)
-- “You are the noblest community ever raised up for mankind.” (3:110)
-- The unbelievers among the people of the book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. (98.6).
-- Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve. (8.55)
--The unbelievers are your inveterate enemy. (4:101)
-- Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. (48:29).
-- It is unlawful for a believer to kill another believer, accidents excepted. (4:92)
-- Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. (5:51)
-- Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme. (8:40)
-- Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme. (2:193)
-- The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. (4:76)
-- We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. (3:151)
-- I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers. (8:12)
FROM THE SAYINGS OF MUHAMMAD:
-- Muhammad said to the Jews: "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. “
-- Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
-- Mohammed said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and whoever says, " None has the right to be worshipped but Allah , his life and property will be saved by me." (otherwise it will not). Vol. 4:196
-- Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Vol. 9:57
-- Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel). Vol. 9:50
-- Muhammad said: "Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, …"
The standard manual of Sharia law, approved by the highest Islamic religious authorities of Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, says unequivocally: "Jihad means to make war on non-Muslims."
Will Naseem Mahdi dare to disagree with Allah and Muhammad???
"...there is no place or justification found in Islam for violence whatsoever."
"He said that Islam requires all Muslims to live in peace and harmony wherever they may be."
This is pure deceitful pro-Moslem propaganda. Here is what Islam really says about terrorism and peace and tolerance:
FROM THE KORAN:
--“ the (only) religion (acceptable) before God is Islam." (3:19)
-- " If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him." (3: 85)
-- “You are the noblest community ever raised up for mankind.” (3:110)
-- The unbelievers among the people of the book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. (98.6).
-- Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve. (8.55)
--The unbelievers are your inveterate enemy. (4:101)
-- Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. (48:29).
-- It is unlawful for a believer to kill another believer, accidents excepted. (4:92)
-- Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. (5:51)
-- Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme. (8:40)
-- Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme. (2:193)
-- The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. (4:76)
-- We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. (3:151)
-- I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers. (8:12)
FROM THE SAYINGS OF MUHAMMAD:
-- Muhammad said to the Jews: "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. “
-- Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
-- Mohammed said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and whoever says, " None has the right to be worshipped but Allah , his life and property will be saved by me." (otherwise it will not). Vol. 4:196
-- Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Vol. 9:57
-- Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel). Vol. 9:50
-- Muhammad said: "Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, …"
The standard manual of Sharia law, approved by the highest Islamic religious authorities of Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, says unequivocally: "Jihad means to make war on non-Muslims."
Will Naseem Mahdi dare to disagree with Allah and Muhammad???
This guy is spouting religiously sanctioned deception called 'taqiyya'. mohammed said to use deception if it advanced islam. And muslims follow their 'perfect man'.
And he is also going against the koran and sharia laws based on the koran and sunnah (hadith and sira). So, this guy is just giving what I call 'lip service' to people to lull them into complacency.
If one looks further into Sharia laws you will find that not only is religous deception a good and holy thing, but so is Jihad. The first line of jihad says (o9 of Sharia laws) '...to war against the non-muslim...'. And if one does not 'take up the sword' (so to speak) then they support the violent Jihadists via their zakat, or what we call muslim charity.
We need to start becoming aware of islam. It is not peaceful, nor benign. Its goals is to either kill or subjugate us if we reject becoming muslims. That has been what has been motivating their continual war (that ebbs and flows) for 1400 years. 97% of the time that Jihad is talked about in their texts - it is about violence against the non-muslim. And the ultimate thing for a muslim to do is die while killing non-muslims. They believe they go straight to their heaven and bypass hell. They can name 70 other individuals to go with them and that is why the whole community celebrates.
- Posted by: staffsgt71 | May 4, 2010 5:16 PM
It is really funny to see the first two posters here angrily declaring they know what Muslims believe in better than Muslims themselves, and copy pasting stuff off the internet, when the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has for the last 120 years actually demonstrated that they are the only truly peaceful community of Muslims in the world. In fact, they are actually persecuted by other Muslims for their beliefs.
Have you guys ever met an Ahmadi Muslim before? Do you know any Ahmadi Muslims?
Better yet, instead of spouting conspiracy theories about taqqiya, why not investigate the ahmadiyya community, go to one of their mosques (yes, ahmadiyya mosques all around the world are open to the public and regularly hold interfaith programs with people of other faiths, including Jews, christians, hindus, sikhs, and others), and see for yourself that this is not "paying lip service."
as a member of this community all my life i can tell you that what mr. mahdi is saying is actually what we are taught from a very young age. if you find that cynical, again i welcome you to go to your local ahmadiyya mosque and see for yourself that there are indeed peaceful muslims out there.
peace be with you.
Have you guys ever met an Ahmadi Muslim before? Do you know any Ahmadi Muslims?
Better yet, instead of spouting conspiracy theories about taqqiya, why not investigate the ahmadiyya community, go to one of their mosques (yes, ahmadiyya mosques all around the world are open to the public and regularly hold interfaith programs with people of other faiths, including Jews, christians, hindus, sikhs, and others), and see for yourself that this is not "paying lip service."
as a member of this community all my life i can tell you that what mr. mahdi is saying is actually what we are taught from a very young age. if you find that cynical, again i welcome you to go to your local ahmadiyya mosque and see for yourself that there are indeed peaceful muslims out there.
peace be with you.
The first poster uses cut-and-paste quotes out of context. Who were those Jews Muhammad wanted to expel? The ones who treacherously broke their treaty and colaborated in a war of extermination against the peaceful Muslim community.
The second poster invokes taqiyya, the cop out excuse of Islamophobes to dismiss anything true or good a Muslim might say. In the world of this loony conspiracy, Muslim preaching about peace is really an attempt to undermine white, Christian civilization.
The third poster slanders all non-Ahmadiyyah Muslims by claiming Ahmadiya alone is the only peaceful Muslim group. Hundreds of millions of Muslims, the vast majority, reject terrorism as proven by Gallup scientific polls. Such a false claim smacks of partisan bigotry and is no different than Wahhabi extremism or any other sect that claims to be the "true" Muslim sect. The truth is that no sect has the Absolute Truth in every matter.
Islam promotes pluralsim and tolerance. "Hilm" (forbearance, tolerance) is a virtue in the Quran: "Most surely Abraham was forbearing, tender-hearted, repentant." (11:75) The media and punditry chose to ignore the moderate Muslim majority and instead pander to Islamophobic prejudice, just like Anderson Cooper giving Ayan Hirsi a free pass to spew crude stereotypes against the Muslim communities unchallenged. And don't get me started about Fox News. Their Islamophobia is well documented (see Media Matters, Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting).
I want to thank On Faith for posting Mr. Mahdi's expression of how the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community rejects any notion of terrorism in the name of Islam. I know that there are many other Muslims who also condemn terrorism but to my knowledge the Ahmadis are the only community of Muslims who collectively (across the board) condemn all forms of terrorism. The community's leader, Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, repeatedly reminds the members that terrorism has nothing to do with Islam. I haven't heard a unified voice from other Muslims from all over the world.
The "Gotcha" here is that although the writer crows about condemning terrorism, he is silent about Jihad. What we call "terrorism" is a misnomer: the proper term is "Jihad with the sword", only one of the four ways in which Jihad is conducted. The other three are the mouth and pen (which the above article constitutes) and the money (the Shari'ah compliant finance).
There is also the concept of "Taqiyya", which is "sacred deception to further Isalm", provided for in Islamic Law. Thus, although the author may look you straight in the eye as he asserts what he does, you cannot trust what he says to be the truth. This is why all westerners need to learn Islamic Doctrine for themselves: they cannot depend on the Muslims to level with them, especially about the more vicious Suras, such as Q9:5, Q9:29, etc.
Holy Quran ch2:v57/56 reads "There is no compulsion in religion."
Ch22:v40/39 "Permission to fight is given to those against whom war is made."
Ch22:v40/40 "if Allah did not repel some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft commemorated"
Jihad of the sword is only allowed in Islam when the enemy strikes first and it is also to be made to save churches and synagogues from being destroyed!
The reason there are so many verses against the infidels is because not only did they brutally persecute and drive out a peaceful people from their hometown, but they followed them to their new residence and waged battle after battle against them.
When the Muslims were finally strong enough to attack, they marched 1000 strong to Makkah, where they were persecuted, where their friends and family had been brutally killed, and from where army after army had been dispatched to kill them...they found the enemy dumbfounded, unable to put up any fight, and guess what, there was a general amnesty announced...a pardon for all, but a handful of criminals. History of this planet has never seen such a grand display of forgiveness. This event took place after all those verses quoted by the first poster had been revealed. In fact almost the entire, if not all,of the Quran had been revealed.
People of all religions lived among the Muslims peacefully. Some tribes of the Jews actively and admittedly conspired to allow the enemy to pass through undetected to massacre the Muslims by surprise. There were other conspiracies hatched by some others, against which Muslims were warned, who regarded the Jews and Christians as People of the Book according to the Quran. And about whom Quran says (ch2:v62/61) that they will also go to heaven depending on their faith and their works.
That "taqiyya" business is that first I've heard of this term or concept. Regarding justice and truth the Holy Quran (ch5:v2,3) says " And let not the enmity of a people, that they hindered you from the Sacred Mosque, incite you to transgress."
This is what we learn from the Holy Quran and Islam's Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and this is what Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad came to re-teach 150 years ago...and this is what we've been taught from birth.
Corrections to my early comment:
When Muslims marched back to Makkah, they were 10,000 men, not 1000.
Also, we are taught that a war can only be called Jihad if the enemy fights to suppress one's right to practice one's faith. Fighting a political enemy would not classify as Jihad, even though it may be an otherwise justified political war.
More lies from a Muslim. The Islamic scriptures condone terrorism. As for the comment from the Muslim, Muslims are trying to replace Western Civilization with Islamic Law. Islam calls for the dominance of non-Muslims, that is not tolernance. All pros-Sharia Muslims should be looked upon as enemies of the state. Just as Nazis were.
Here are more Islamic lies, exposed.
Islamic Scholar’s “Islam is Peace” Fatwa Undone
http://loganswarning.com/2010/03/03/uk-islamic-scholars-islam-is-peace-fatwa-undone/
Lying Imam: US Constitution and the Koran the Same
http://loganswarning.com/2010/01/13/lying-imam-us-constitution-and-the-koran-the-same/
To Everyonerelax,
This community is meaningless, and will not change the threat of Islam.
Qudsia00,
Not allowing Sharia Law, is "oppressing" Muslims. That is enough for war. The Koran also states that Muslims should terrorize those that contend against Islam. That can be something as simple as speaking out against us. So take the smokescreen somewhere else.
- Posted by: Christopher3 | May 5, 2010 1:06 AM
To the Muslim commenters. Point out the major Western anti-Sharia movment...I forgot there is not one. Sharia is the enemy of the free world, and we will not sumbit!
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